While anyone can go to Wikipedia to see why this analogy is
wrong (*cough*), let’s delve into it just a little bit shall we? I saw this for
the first time a few days ago and honestly I’m a little appalled by it.
Philosophy is. Theology is. Science is. (I’m ignoring metaphysics.) Theology is
more about the study of a religion. This does not preclude that the
theologist believes in a god, or the god that they’re currently studying.
So my first question would be: If belief isn't required
to be a Theologist, but theology is like finding a cat in a dark room, then
does this not work against the extremists that created this picture? The
theologist found the cat, which could then therefore say that they found a god.
I haven’t seen it used this way, but if you’re going to knock it, you should
word it better. No one needs to study religion to believe in something greater.
Just as no one needs to study science in order for a watch to tell time.
A belief is simply that: a belief. I would have sooner
expected this picture to say “religion”. It’s not entirely accurate as it
does not encompass all believers, but it gets used generically enough that it
still would be a better use than Theology. I've only seen this
(example/picture) used to knock (down) believers, so I again think that this is
what was intended. But where am I going exactly? There seems to be this
“common” notion by atheist extremists that atheism and science go hand in hand.
Furthermore, they will say that one cannot believe in god and science at the
same time. Beliefs and Sciences are separate things. I can believe in something
beyond this life and also believe in evolution. If you disagree with me, then
we have an issue… because I do believe the earth is billions of years old, that
homo-sapiens and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor that was neither
monkey nor humans as we see them today. I also accept that we can date the
earth to the last Ice Age via Dendrochronology. So all this talk about Science
being an atheist’s proof? I don’t buy it. Not everyone believes as Christians
do and that “what’s out there” is specifically an omni-potent god. There are
other ideas out there, other ideas that fully accept science. Fully.
Completely. Atheism and Science. Theism and Science. Both work. Neither
disproves the other.
So my second question would be: Why do people think
Science is specific to a belief style? Just because a religious zealot says
“Science is a religion!” doesn't mean the rest of us agree with that notion.
There’s no reason to take an extremist’s point of view and declare it upon
everyone else. We’re not them. You’re not them. Don’t be them. And no, not
seeing god isn't your scientific proof to be an atheist. Prove to the rest of
us that the wind doesn't exist. You can’t see that. You say it affects you,
that you can feel it. If you cannot give the benefit of the doubt that perhaps
you can’t witness things as others can… then you’re not doing science justly.
Science accepts the fact that perhaps they’re doing it wrong, perhaps more knowledge
is needed to see the next truth, and that one cannot go into an experiment with
an expectation of the result. You can think you might know… that’s a
hypothesis, but expecting to know and then stopping pursuit once you find
“proof”? That’s not following the Method. Also, a “lack of proof” from theists
(not that theists state they’re lacking any) isn't a justified answer. For one,
it isn't a scientific approach. Secondly, what is a belief if you’re just
taking what others say or don’t say? Not much, I’ll tell you that.
So this leads me to my final question. This is the one I
find interesting. Everyone is in a room looking for a cat. The scientist is
using a flashlight, and I assume this means that they will find it. So here’s
my (third and original) question: What is Science’s reaction when they spot the black cat… being
held by Theology? After all, Theology did find the cat when Science was
still looking.
Extra thoughts to think on:
- It states that the cat isn't there for Metaphysics and Theology. This is an unfair analogy because either the cat IS there for all, or is NOT there for all. So we have options. 2 – No Cat, 3 - Cat
- It depicts science as the smartest of the four choices, yet science also got duped into searching for a black cat in a dark room. Assuming the cat isn't there since again it only states when the cat isn't there, but never states that there IS actually a cat present.
- There is a cat, but it simply is not in the room. So Philosophy, Metaphysics, and Science are looking in a room where there is no cat. Yet Theology found the cat that isn't in the room. How? Well maybe the door is open, or maybe it’s on the other side of the window. We might live in a box, but the extra spice to life is being able to both Think and See outside of it.
Dear Joe,
ReplyDeleteYou have written well, but strictly speaking all those analogies are nothing but someone's ability to play smart with words, without finding absurd, but without any real meaning. It is like Navajyot Siddhu's babblings - all Fireworks and no contents. You feel that you have heard something wonderful, but at the end nothing comes out. So, Joe, your dwellings, though smart, are futile. You cannot find meaning out of meaningless things.
What you said was part of the point. If something is meaningless and people take a face value in some sort of inherent meaning... sometimes it takes another individual to point flaws to evolve one's thoughts.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment. :)